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Wade;209445Yes, he has pretty darn good measurables.

(Though I had his 40 as 4.56, exactly the same as Barron's.)

I still don't like the pick.

(And don't forget...it took Collins a solid three years to develop.)

He had better be Collins II.

Yeah, if he doesn't end up as good as one of Green Bay's all-time greatest safeties, it'll be a total waste ... of a 4th round compensatory pick. =d>
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evad04;209448Yeah, if he doesn't end up as good as one of Green Bay's all-time greatest safeties, it'll be a total waste ... of a 4th round compensatory pick. =d>


No joke right? Seems like some just want to gripe about everything to be different. I like it, it adds balance to the site.
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Not sure if Wade deserved to be mocked like that, Twinkie.

Personally, I can see what Wade is getting at. It is a little unsettling to have a player that most draft sites rated as a marginal prospect get drafted in the fourth round. It's not like any of the draft sites I've checked out thought this kid was going to go later on, it's that they all didn't think he was worth drafting at all.

So, yeah, I'm not all that giddy about this pick. If someone like Mike Sherman made this pick, I'd be complaining about how bad of a draft choice it was - and it initially looks like we got much less than fair value here. However, given Ted's record, and the fact that he picked Nick Collins who brought about similar feelings of "major reach" as this pick, I'm willing to not reject this pick outright.

Furthermore, Wade does make a good point about him being Nick Collins II in order for it to be have been a worthwhile pick. Frankly, if he is going to be a career back-up, we could've gotten that at S after the draft (as MD Jennings and Anthony Levine can attest to). McMillian has to be more than a ST body, because (again) we could have gotten someone like that later on (i.e. Ryan Taylor in the 7th round last year). Mcmillian, having gone where he has based on what he was projected to be, should be expected to compete for and eventually win a starting spot. You don't want him to simply be a body... that is not what you expect from a fourth round pick.
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Zero2Cool;209453No joke right? Seems like some just want to gripe about everything to be different. I like it, it adds balance to the site.


And to think I have been quiet about the draft :)
Damn 49ers took my guy again those bastards

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Was an interesting pick to say the least, but I'm going to take TT's word for it. With the way some teams were drafting guys this year, this pick doesn't look bad at all...

Just take a look at this pick again and then look at the Jaguars 3rd round pick...:-k
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all_about_da_packers;209464Not sure if Wade deserved to be mocked like that, Twinkie.

Personally, I can see what Wade is getting at. It is a little unsettling to have a player that most draft sites rated as a marginal prospect get drafted in the fourth round. It's not like any of the draft sites I've checked out thought this kid was going to go later on, it's that they all didn't think he was worth drafting at all.

So, yeah, I'm not all that giddy about this pick. If someone like Mike Sherman made this pick, I'd be complaining about how bad of a draft choice it was - and it initially looks like we got much less than fair value here. However, given Ted's record, and the fact that he picked Nick Collins who brought about similar feelings of "major reach" as this pick, I'm willing to not reject this pick outright.

Furthermore, Wade does make a good point about him being Nick Collins II in order for it to be have been a worthwhile pick. Frankly, if he is going to be a career back-up, we could've gotten that at S after the draft (as MD Jennings and Anthony Levine can attest to). McMillian has to be more than a ST body, because (again) we could have gotten someone like that later on (i.e. Ryan Taylor in the 7th round last year). Mcmillian, having gone where he has based on what he was projected to be, should be expected to compete for and eventually win a starting spot. You don't want him to simply be a body... that is not what you expect from a fourth round pick.


Most of those draft sites probably never even looked at more than a game or two of this guys whole career (if any at all) let alone interviewed with him or attended personal workouts.
I think sometimes fans hold the "mock draft rankings" in way too high of regard as to where players should be picked or not because those things are in reality about as useful as throwing darts at a wall full of names (especially when it comes to small school players like this guy).
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play2win;209434One of the top prospects to emerge from Maine in years, McMillian is a strong and physical safety who will be valued fairly high by an NFL team that needs help in its run defense. He is an athlete who at times can look stiff in his movements when covering the pass. When it comes to getting involved in the run game, McMillian brings it full-go every time and is a real aggressive player. His value lies in his ability to support the run and be a sure tackler, and he has sixth-round value based on this. He will likely be a make-it guy as a late-round selection for a team as he will be a reliable backup option early on and a serious contributor on special teams. Without doubt he is a player who needs to be heavily involved with the front seven and will be attractive to blitz-heavy defenses.

McMillian brings a physical presence to the back end of the defense and his game revolves around supporting the run. He reacts to passes well and can force his body hard in one direction to make a play toward the ball, much like he does in his reactions to the run. He is quick to diagnose run and pass, and reacts to the run much better coming toward the line of scrimmage than he does moving away. He is aggressive when coming downfield to defend the run; there is little hesitation in his movements. McMillian can tackle with the best of them and is effective when blitzing. He rarely misses a tackle and is NFL-ready in terms of supporting the run. http://m.nfl.com/combine/profile/2532908/jeron-mcmillian/

4.42 40 with 36.5" vertical! Not bad for a Strong Safety.


Sounds alot like Atari Bigby imo.
Only with speed.
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Wade;209445Yes, he has pretty darn good measurables.

(Though I had his 40 as 4.56, exactly the same as Barron's.)

I still don't like the pick.

(And don't forget...it took Collins a solid three years to develop.)

He had better be Collins II.


I liked Collins from the start.
Collins had an off year his second season, because his dad was dying of cancer.
He was always good though.

Burnett was impressive his rookie year before being injured.
These guys can come in and compete as rookies.
Especially under the tutelage of our coaching staff.
Remember how good Shields looked as a rookie?
And CB is arguably more demanding than S.
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A safety who is extremely fast and tackles well.

That sounds like Nick Collins.
Remember, when we drafted Collins, he was a 2nd round pick considered to be a reach.
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blueleopard;209546A safety who is extremely fast and tackles well.

That sounds like Nick Collins.
Remember, when we drafted Collins, he was a 2nd round pick considered to be a reach.


The Baltimore Ravens called Ted Thompson to congratulate him on the Nick Collins pick saying they got a really good player whom they were gonna take with their next pick.



I hope this Safety can tackle, hit, intercept and COVER very well.
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