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Not really, Ted said he's a CB but the way Dom uses them the CB and S often have very similar responsibilites.
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I think this is Ted acknowledging that every guy he drafts high in the front 7 will inevitably be a bust.

so he is avoiding it altogether.
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hardrocker950;310905Strange pick to me. There are only a couple of scenarios that make much sense to me.

1 - Ted drafted him to play CB. From the little bit I know about him, he has been criticized due to his size - maybe he would fit better on the outside.

2 - He plays safety and Hyde returns to corner. Hyde seems to do well at either position.

3 - Ted felt he was the BPA and picked him simply because of that.

I'm not overly excited about this pick - I hope he can contribute in some way early on.


First 2 things that came to mind were BPA and moving Hyde. Don't love his size, but seems like he could play a few positions in the secondary.
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meanwhile TE, ILB, and DL continue to be terrible.
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nerdmann;310910They like him better than London Collins, because he's more of a cover guy, less of a hitter.
It's like Dix over Pryor last year.
The aggressive "Chuck Cecil" type of hitter is just gonna get flagged and give up free first downs in today's game.
It's sad but it's true.


Also seems like Ted's less concerned about height than he used to be, ever since he drafted Cobb.


I wasn't looking Collins as a hitter.
I was and still am looking for players that will be able to matchup with TEs.
We have 8 dbs 6'0" or under and only one guy on the team that matches up decent against TEs in Richardson.


Perhaps Ted will find a player that is a better matchup with TEs later in the draft yet.
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Patriots and Saints are laughing at ted.
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PackFanWithTwins;310917I wasn't looking Collins as a hitter.
I was and still am looking for players that will be able to matchup with TEs.
We have 8 dbs 6'0" or under and only one guy on the team that matches up decent against TEs in Richardson.


Perhaps Ted will find a player that is a better matchup with TEs later in the draft yet.



You know who matched up with TEs well? Nick Collins. Who else, still in the NFL? Earl Thomas.

Both players were between 5'10 and 5'11, and about 200-205 pounds.

You need to have good change of direction ability - or "twitch" as Ted likes to call it. Damarious Randall, based on his (3-cone) combine numbers, had one of the best in this draft. Almost as good as the 3-cone time Cobb put up, and no TE was as fast as Cobb's.

Also, I have to think they start Randall at slot CB instead of outside. It seems like Randall had a lot of snaps covering the slot, especially given ASU's scheme blitzed a ton and played "zero coverage" (no safety help) on the back end.
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If I loved TT, I would still call this a reach.
My doomsday scenario...all the good CB's gone so he reaches for a S to convert him to a CB.
His NFL.com write up said he was higher rated as a S than CB.


This is a TT special.
Panic that you aren't going to get a CB so you reach for a S to convert him.


It is one thing to gamble like that on a Sam Shields where if it doesn't work out there's no harm no foul but not on D in R1 where he's failed time and time again.
It's time to stop screwing around in R1 on D.
I hope Gregory, Brown or Kendricks is DROY.


Of all the disappointments in R1 this one is up there...not the tops but it rates.


Hope you hit on a UDFA so your lemmings can continue making a case that you are stellar drafter.

Now, watch...this guy turns into Charles freaking Woodson.
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nerdmann;310906 I look at this as depth across from Shields, but honestly I have to wonder if Morgan Burnett's days are numbered.
Every year we expect him to take that step up, but he hasn't.


I thought about this as well after I posted. He has had his chance and the results have been.... meh. Morgan hasn't shown anything that sets him apart from the average safety.
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Laser Gunns;310912I think this is Ted acknowledging that every guy he drafts high in the front 7 will inevitably be a bust.

so he is avoiding it altogether.


I laughed. But there is some truth in what you said, sadly.
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