well that's cool drivel - my twins are 6 years old.
ahhh memories...the joys, the tears, the pulling out of my hair!!!
LOL.
i am also complimented constantly on the boys behavior when we're out in public.
it's truly amazing that they can sit there waiting patiently for a meal in a restaurant but if it takes ME an extra 2 minutes to boil the macaroni, i'm pummelled with "when's it gonna be readies?" every 5 seconds!

All my kids (4 of my own and 1 adopted) are grown up now.
I think it the height of irony that none of them ever caused any major "scenes" in restaurants/public places. Not only was I the worst offender imaginable, but when I got older, I was the instigator with younger brothers, including a fresh "import" due to my dad getting remarried after my mom had passed.
Right about the time my natural brother was too old to fall for the stuff that I would do to get him in trouble (he was two years my junior), along comes a step-brother 4 years my junior, which naturally caused me to start all over again with my old tricks.

I was SO BAD that it reached the point where my younger brothers would be allowed to go to the restaurant, while I had to sit home alone, which created a whole new set of problems for my parents and my tucas upon their return.
The whole me staying at home alone solution arose when my folks decided one day to leave all of us at home.
It seems that I had some poor timing issues on that day.
As they were leaving in the car, my step-mom glanced back at the house and saw (through the window) yours truly chasing his little brothers around the house with a broom.
My shenanigans at a restaurant involved all the condiments left on the table, various foods through noses, straws, spit wads, harrassment of fellow patrons...

I was NOT a good boy, including a screamer/pouter when very young.

Just goes to show that there is no justice in this world.
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"longtimefan"You say they did nothing? Maybe they did try tactics that have worked in the past, like a certain word, or a certain look but this time it didn't work.

As a parent of a child that used to behave that way, they probably felt WORSE and MORE embarrassed then the anger you felt.

It is no fun at all to be that table with the screaming child.


But to answer, depends on if they have ordered yet, or were eating.I would have asked the waitress/manager to see if they could be moved, or something.

It isn't right for the entire place to have to deal with it..

But then again I thought McDonald's allowed kids to yell and scream

Mcdonalds has a play area for the kids, there they can scream and yell to their hears content

My kids knew better than to raise hell in a restaurant ...shopping center ...church....other peoples homes. Actions were swift and direct to control their outbreaks. But as i grew older crying anoying kids bother me less and less. I think i have personally grown amune to that crap. But back to my kids. They knew those outbursts were disturbing to the point that sometimes they would get up from our table at a resturant and try to calm the kids themselfs. This reaction by my children made me proud of them and usually the parents of the renagade were more than thankful for my childrens efforts. It's amazing how kids can calm down kids.

I sure miss the days when a good crack on the ass could cure many problems in this world. Hell when i was a kid you feared every adult your parents knew. At any given time you could get your rear cracked and a report to dad made the punishment twice as bad. {don't get me started on punishment from teachers} Sometimes this pussified world we have created for the children these days makes me shake my head. My father was a firm believer in "spare the rod ruin the child" and i'll be dammed if we shouldn't return to that these days.

"IronMan"

"Nonstopdrivel"As the father of twin two-year-olds who is complimented everywhere he goes on how well behaved his children are t

Same way when I was a kid. I knew not to act up in public. My dad must have brought the hammer down at a young age, because as far back as I can remember(4 yrs old or so) I just knew not to act up. It just wasn't an option. LOL He's a former Staff Sgt in the Army and he was definitely a disciplinarian. You can now understand why I get so frustrated with this penalty ridden, mistake prone, cluster-fuck of a team this year.

If my dad were the coach, mental errors and pre snap penalties would....well like I said before, they would not be an option.
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Thats the way my parents were. If you acted up ONCE in a restaurant, that was the LAST time you ever went. And my folks would have left the restaurant BEFORE we had a chance to screw up anyone elese dinner.
And i was NOT beaten, i was spanked. (Not nearly as often as i deserved it, I'm sure)
If you go to a nice restaurant, and you can't control your kids, they should be left at home with a baby sitter. If you can't get a sitter, then you don't go out. There is NO excuse for people to screw up other people's meals.
Thats just plain selfish to not care if you mess other people's night up.

Been on both sides of the fence, me being a kids person, doesn't really bother me if someone's child acts up, I feel their pain and I truly don't believe there are many parents that don't care enough to try and solve the fit.

It is funny though, with my kids, I expect them to be polite and behaved, even at a young age. They are raised to be disciplined and polite, they get little leeway in that department. They have moments, but they get curbed and dealt with quickly.

My opinion, if it had bothered me, I would have asked for a different seat or a to go container and left little tip, as I would have expected the restaurant staff to have addressed it already.

I don't force others behavior, well most of the time, if they want my business or company.. earn it. I place the responsibility on the staff in this case to address the issue for the good of the overall customer base.

Parenting is tough line to walk, I generally cut slack and again, it probably won't have bothered me as much.

With my hearing problem and migraines, one can be set off by a screaming child. The rare times i can go out for a nice dinner, i don't want it screwed up by some other parent's lack of taking responsibility for their kids.

My suggestion may or may not be legal, and it's most certainly unethical, but also undeniably effective.

1.
Carry with you at all times a small bottle Thiopental and a syringe.
Thiopental is a colorless liquid that will be used to render the crying child unconscious.

2.
Fill the syringe with one milligram of Thiopental for every 20lbs of child.
This is where the ability to guess a child's weight comes in handy, as too much of the drug can be lethal.
Best to err on the lowside.
3.
Misdirection.
If your plan is to be foiled, it will be at this stage.
The parents of the crying baby certainly aren't going to consent to your idea of drugging their small child, so you'll need to distract them for a couple seconds while you inject the baby with drug (the jugular is the best point of entry).
I like to use a flirtatious female as my main source of distraction, though your mileage may vary depending on what you have at your disposal.

"Packerchick"

"longtimefan"You say they did nothing? Maybe they did try tactics that have worked in the past, like a certain word, or a certain look but this time it didn't work.

As a parent of a child that used to behave that way, they probably felt WORSE and MORE embarrassed then the anger you felt.

It is no fun at all to be that table with the screaming child.


But to answer, depends on if they have ordered yet, or were eating.I would have asked the waitress/manager to see if they could be moved, or something.

It isn't right for the entire place to have to deal with it..

But then again I thought McDonald's allowed kids to yell and scream

Mcdonalds has a play area for the kids, there they can scream and yell to their hears content

I know...

Iwas trying to just be an a@@ and give IM a hard time Iguess it failed :(

"Nonstopdrivel"Even if the child has cognitive challenges, there's no excuse for not removing the child from the situation, in my opinion.
It's a simple application of the Golden Rule: people go to a restaurant to have a good time.

I agree with removing said child..

But to say you should be able to teach ANY child to behave like a "puppy" was just a WEEEE bit annoying