[2011] Green Bay Packers at Detroit Lions

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Wouldn't having a shut down defense right now be absolute Facism?
I like the fact that we can make the stops when we need to.
I just fear we get into a cold weather playoff game in Lambeau and get shut down on offense and then some lucky play loses us the championship.
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DakotaT;199054Wouldn't having a shut down defense right now be absolute Facism?


Yeah, that would be awesome though.
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I'm pleased that Mike Neal is staying healthy so far.
Hopefully he'll be fully adjusted and ready to be a bigger factor once the playoffs begin.
I've seen him get a pretty nice push a couple of times only to flush the QB to the other side where there was no pressure.
He may not be great, but if he can be better than average, the defense should improve.
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Ndamukong Suh is misunderstood.

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          INT. MASTER BEDROOM, MANSION (DETROIT SUBURBS) DAY

          Morning light spilling through the open Venetian blinds
          crosses NDAMUKONG SUH's face, waking him.  Suh- 20s, 6'4",
          307 pounds, one of the kindest, bravest, warmest, most
          wonderful human beings anyone could ever know.

          Suh carefully slides out of bed with the grace of a
          ballerina, careful not to wake his girlfriend, PEACH.

          INT. MASTER BATH

          Suh, a bit groggy, steps to the toilet.  After not lifting
          the seat, he begins urinating...

          ...all over the seat, smiling.  Finished, he FLUSHES the
          toilet.

          INT. MASTER BEDROOM

          Suh comes back in- Peach now AWAKE in bed, the flushing
          having woken her.

                              SUH
                    Morning, Lovely.

                              PEACH
                    Darling.

          Peach- 20s, the hair to match her name, a classic damsel
          with the pie-baking skills to match.

          Suh leans in for a kiss and Peach obliges him before sliding
          out of bed herself.

                              PEACH
                    Gotta put my contacts in.

          Peach gives him one last kiss before HEADING INTO the
          bathroom.  Suh slips back under the covers, genuinely happy.

                              PEACH (O.S)
                    Uhh... Ndamey baby?

                              SUH
                    Yes, Lovely?

                              PEACH (O.S)
                    Did you pee all over the toilet
                    seat?  Again?

                              SUH
                    How many times do I have to tell
                    you, the toilet flushes extremely
                    powerfully in the morning, a power
                    that I can relate to!  Ask the man
                    upstairs if you don't believe me!

          INT. OSAKA JAPANESE STEAKHOUSE -- DAY

          Suh hands his menu to the charming WAITRESS.

                              SUH
                         (finishing)
                    And the salad, please.

          FIFTEEN MINUTES LATER

          The waitress brings Suh his salad.  Suh examines it-

                              SUH
                    Excuse me, what is this?

                              WAITRESS
                    Our house salad.  It's-

                              SUH
                    I ordered the soup, you monster!
                    AND YOU CAN TAKE THAT UP WITH GOD!

          I/E CHRYSLER 300 -- DAY

          Suh, behind the wheel of his favourite Chrysler, the company
          he endorses.  An endorsement that Chrysler certainly isn't
          regretting.

          Suh slots his go-to Peter Gabriel compact-disc into the
          car's player.  When 'Your Eyes' hits, Suh lowers the
          driver's side window a crack, breathing in the fresh air of
          downtown Detroit.

          With his nose and ears tickled, Suh lets out a deep breath
          through his nose and the smallest of smiles forms across his
          mouth.

                              SUH
                    Today is going to be a good day.

          Suh looks ahead half-a-block down the road at the upcoming
          stoplight- it turns from yellow to red.

          THE ENGINE ROARS TO LIFE-

          LATER

          Suh, ON THE SIDEWALK, an ice pack on his head, being talked
          to by a POLICEMAN.

                              POLICEMAN
                    And that's the statement you wish
                    for me to record you making?

                              SUH
                    Yessir.

                              POLICEMAN
                    So your statement is the
                    seventy-eight year old, recently
                    widowed grandmother driving to her
                    granddaughter's wedding T-boned
                    you?

                              SUH
                    Yessir.

          The Policeman looks over his shoulder at the CRASH SCENE:

          Suh's car, upright, firmly planted to a rolled over,
          up-ended and just wrecked BUICK.

          Not far away, two ATTENDANTS close a BODY BAG.

                              POLICEMAN
                    Sir, the cameras from the
                    stoplights show your vehicle
                    running the red light and-

                              SUH
                    I saw that tape.  I was just trying
                    to slow to a complete stop like any
                    good citizen would.  Go ahead and
                    make up whatever storylines you
                    wish, me and the man upstairs know
                    what's what.



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doddpower;199047AADP,Of course, this style of defense relies as much on our offense as defense to either A) continue to score or B) take lots of time off the clock.
Eventually, most teams will simply run out of time to catch up.
Of course, all this relies on our defense actually being able to get a few stops and us getting ahead by 10 or so.


I'm not so sure I'd agree with the first part. In fact, I'd say evidence of the first half proves that either of the two options need not be the case. Our offense was not getting the job done, and the Lions held a 20 min - 10 min advantage in time of possession. But despite the underwhelming performance on offense, credit our guys for being responsible.


I do agree with azrunning that the Lions scheme on O probably had a lot to do with the game plan. The execution deserves props, too, though. Best of all, we had 3 turnovers, with a legit shot at having 2 more. These guys are aggressive, but last night showed they need not force the issue. Playing disciplined can produce results, too. I sincerely hope some of the guys on D looked at it that way, at least.
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all_about_da_packers;199081I'm not so sure I'd agree with the first part. In fact, I'd say evidence of the first half proves that either of the two options need not be the case. Our offense was not getting the job done, and the Lions held a 20 min - 10 min advantage in time of possession. But despite the underwhelming performance on offense, credit our guys for being responsible.


Perhaps not the first half, but things changed in the second half.
Give credit to our defense for making plays in the first half, though.
My point was, the way Dom chooses to attack dramatically changes depending on the offensive production (or, one could also say defense scoring).
This may seem incredibly obvious, but it's fun to watch him adjust his calls depending on situations.
This is in stark contrast to certain times in the past (Bob Sanders) or several other defensive coordinators in the NFL who stick to their "way" and live and die with it.
He could have chosen to blitz heavily in the late second half in an attempt to get more sacks on INTs to seal the game, but he choose to make them earn every inch and watch the clock drain.
I imagine this was by far the best way to attack Stafford because he's prone to making mistakes . . . eventually.
It's certainly no guarantee he can have several back to back 80+ yard drives against our defense without throwing a pick (obviously, since we had three).
A QB like Brady or Brees on the other hand, I'm not so sure.
The Packers might very well have to force a turnover or continue to score points on offense to outscore those two when they are in the "grove."

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When guys are too focused on taking cheap shots, they lose focus on football.
Suh is just a classic case of it, and he cost his team plenty due to his bullshit.
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doddpower;199083 when they are in the "grove."

When they are in the grove, are they able to see the forest for the trees?
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Nonstopdrivel;199033Of course, no discussion would be complete without Skip Bayless' take:

In other words, the Packers aren't actually playing all that great this year.
They're just lucky.
They're
getting all the breaks because, y'know, the NFL wants them to have a magical year.


I'd quite like to see Skip Bayless have to line up against Ndamukunt.
Would like to see the ensuing massacre result in Bayless' jaw being wired shut so we wouldn't have to hear him speak for several months.
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Nonstopdrivel;199093When they are in the grove, are they able to see the forest for the trees?


Nope.
They got seduced by dryads and never seen again. :-k
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