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Zero2Cool
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G-Force;199727Finley recorded 6 receptions for 87 yards and a touchdown. I will take that every game from the tight end. Can that even be considered a bad performance? Haha.
I understand people are all bent out of shape because of the "chemistry" article, but give me a break.
I'm still waiting for someone to produce this chemistry article, argh.
He did have 2 or 3 drive killing drops. I'd give him a B.
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Our Defense is performing very poorly it's no question but after thinking about the game I think the BIG problem is the pass rush. Our secondary might be slightly to blame but you can't expect to be able to cover guys, especially in a zone based defense when receivers have enough time to run through and easily find the holes and sit in them while the QB lays back and finds them with ease... Also in man to man coverage, good CB's like woodson and tramon are getting killed deep but what really do you expect when receivers are about to run full speed 20 yards down the field pull off a double or triple move on them while the QB has the entire time to wait for that to develop.
Last year our passing D was spectacular but the more I think of it the more I think our Pass Rush forced teams to get the ball out quick on the shorter routes which killed all the bigger plays down the field. A lot of times when teams tried to hold the ball they'd get hit or pressured before they got it out the way they would want to. For example in the Superbowl Nick Collins got a big pick 6 when they decided to take a deep shot down the field, but the real reason that play even happened was due to the quick pressure we got up the middle that hit big ben as he threw.
Matthews created a ton of pressure last game and has been close in a lot of games, but QB's are moving away from him and we have no pressure coming from the other end or even up the middle from Raji or Jenkins void.
So anyway, It looks like we are going to have to live with this, this year because I don't think our secondary is going to be able to cover players like this. Peprah is the only one I see that's really blowing coverages on his own. So next year we need to fix the hole at OLB, and this year just hope Capers can find some schemes and blitz packages that get us some free lanes to run through. We may have to Blitz Bishop more as he's getting home with a lot of them this year. Zombo was pretty good at it last year and has barely played this year and when he has, he's done little.
Last year our passing D was spectacular but the more I think of it the more I think our Pass Rush forced teams to get the ball out quick on the shorter routes which killed all the bigger plays down the field. A lot of times when teams tried to hold the ball they'd get hit or pressured before they got it out the way they would want to. For example in the Superbowl Nick Collins got a big pick 6 when they decided to take a deep shot down the field, but the real reason that play even happened was due to the quick pressure we got up the middle that hit big ben as he threw.
Matthews created a ton of pressure last game and has been close in a lot of games, but QB's are moving away from him and we have no pressure coming from the other end or even up the middle from Raji or Jenkins void.
So anyway, It looks like we are going to have to live with this, this year because I don't think our secondary is going to be able to cover players like this. Peprah is the only one I see that's really blowing coverages on his own. So next year we need to fix the hole at OLB, and this year just hope Capers can find some schemes and blitz packages that get us some free lanes to run through. We may have to Blitz Bishop more as he's getting home with a lot of them this year. Zombo was pretty good at it last year and has barely played this year and when he has, he's done little.
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Zero2Cool;199729I'm still waiting for someone to produce this chemistry article, argh.
He did have 2 or 3 drive killing drops. I'd give him a B.
I've never seen Finley drop this many. The good news is Jennings, Jones, Nelson and Driver have all gone through this and bounced back. Driver has had some brutal drops over his career...Jones was awful last year, but much improved this year.
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#114

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Did someone else post this? I didn't see it.
Mike M
On the two-minute drill: "... I thought it was awesome."
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G-Force;199727That was a SCARY game and I was was way off on my prediction.
Giants came to play and still lost to a below average team performance by the Packers. =d>
Away game, best lineman injured, 2 starting ILBs injured, and starting CB knocked out of game...I'll take the ugly win.
Side rant...
I've been bugged today via Twitter to see all the hate towards Finley. There is a difference between being disappointed in a player's performance and hating a player because of a bad performance. He dropped a wide open pass...it happens to the best of them. The one and only Greg Jennings had two dropped passes.
Not to mention, Finley was being mugged a majority of the game and received ONE flag the entire game. The penalty they did call wasn't half as bad as what was happening before.
Finley recorded 6 receptions for 87 yards and a touchdown. I will take that every game from the tight end. Can that even be considered a bad performance? Haha.
I understand people are all bent out of shape because of the "chemistry" article, but give me a break.
I agree - while finley wasnt fantastic he had some great catches when we needed them.
Our best TE by far.
Nelson I think is the #2 receiver; looks to be getting better and better.
But got to love DD's TD grab and laying out like that
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Rios39;199730Our Defense is performing very poorly it's no question but after thinking about the game I think the BIG problem is the pass rush. Our secondary might be slightly to blame but you can't expect to be able to cover guys, especially in a zone based defense when receivers have enough time to run through and easily find the holes and sit in them while the QB lays back and finds them with ease... Also in man to man coverage, good CB's like woodson and tramon are getting killed deep but what really do you expect when receivers are about to run full speed 20 yards down the field pull off a double or triple move on them while the QB has the entire time to wait for that to develop.
Last year our passing D was spectacular but the more I think of it the more I think our Pass Rush forced teams to get the ball out quick on the shorter routes which killed all the bigger plays down the field. A lot of times when teams tried to hold the ball they'd get hit or pressured before they got it out the way they would want to. For example in the Superbowl Nick Collins got a big pick 6 when they decided to take a deep shot down the field, but the real reason that play even happened was due to the quick pressure we got up the middle that hit big ben as he threw.
Matthews created a ton of pressure last game and has been close in a lot of games, but QB's are moving away from him and we have no pressure coming from the other end or even up the middle from Raji or Jenkins void.
So anyway, It looks like we are going to have to live with this, this year because I don't think our secondary is going to be able to cover players like this. Peprah is the only one I see that's really blowing coverages on his own. So next year we need to fix the hole at OLB, and this year just hope Capers can find some schemes and blitz packages that get us some free lanes to run through. We may have to Blitz Bishop more as he's getting home with a lot of them this year. Zombo was pretty good at it last year and has barely played this year and when he has, he's done little.
Good point about Bishop.
He's actually hitting home occasionally.
People complain about sending Woodson in on blitzes but we gotta do it.
Dom is doing all he can with what he has.
I think one more solid pass rusher and it's an entirely different D.
I think you and I are seeing the same problem with our D - lack of a pass rush.
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zombieslayer;199769Good point about Bishop.
He's actually hitting home occasionally.
People complain about sending Woodson in on blitzes but we gotta do it.
Dom is doing all he can with what he has.
I think one more solid pass rusher and it's an entirely different D.
I think you and I are seeing the same problem with our D - lack of a pass rush.
Woodson was sent a ton last year. If anything it frees up possible one on ones for Clay. I think it's the lack of inside pressure that is killing us. Obviously as well as the ROLB.
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Crazy yet fun game to watch. As much as I was an advocate of Newhouse's play in relief for Clifton, he was god awful on Sunday. Jason Pierre-Paul completely destroyed him. Great to see Clay have a good game, however.
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That drive was inspiring. They made it look so easy. Frankly, I thought the team needed this. I know the Giants are playing up the moral victory, but this game was huge for the Packers. Somebody else will give the Packers a run like this in the postseason. I don't know whom, but it'll happen. It always does.
This team continues to show it's capable of playing in any type of game. They were in a low scoring game with Detroit for a half. The Atlanta game was sloppy too. And they can outscore opponents in shootouts as we saw against New Orleans and San Diego. The last missing piece was a game-winning drive. Last Sunday, Rodgers delivered that masterfully.
This team continues to show it's capable of playing in any type of game. They were in a low scoring game with Detroit for a half. The Atlanta game was sloppy too. And they can outscore opponents in shootouts as we saw against New Orleans and San Diego. The last missing piece was a game-winning drive. Last Sunday, Rodgers delivered that masterfully.
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