Just to be clear, I think they're going to be running a lot of double TE sets with a receving TE and all around TE.

12 TE T.J. Hockenson (All around TE)

30 CB Byron Murphy (Very athletic CB)

44 OL Dalton Risner (Maybe better for OG but with TE help might be able to play RT).

75 S Darnell Savage (Great tackling and verstile S, though they missed out on those elite deep single coverage FS types)

114 TE Josh Oliver (receving TE)

118 S Marquise Blair (a developmental FS)

150 WR Stanley Morgan Jr. (A great route runner and verstile player, who Thompson would never draft because of his hands/catching need some work but Gute seems more loose with that)

185 RB Devine Ozigbo (A big RB with some nice power and work in zone blocking)

194 WR Penny Hart (Slot WR /return guy)

226 RB Elijah Holyfield (power runner, with very quick speed and great short area movement skills... but almost no speed to speak of and unproven as a receiver).

Beast, I like your Dalton Risner pick, but just for giggles, and you know I like the big uglies...
IF you were to take some OT, OG/C in the 114, 118 slots, who would you take?

Gute has this draft set up for a great chess match. I put the over/under of moves he makes up or down at 3.
I couldn't even begin to project how this will play out. It's going to fun watching it though.

No trades .
BPA


Round 1 Pick 12: Gary, Rashan, DE/DT, Michigan
Round 1 Pick 30: Lawrence, Dexter, DT, Clemson
Round 2 Pick 12: Adderley, Nassir, CB/FS, Delaware
Round 3 Pick 11: Jordan, Michael, OG/C, Ohio State
Round 4 Pick 12: Hill, Justice, RB, Oklahoma State
Round 4 Pick 16: Hall, Emanuel, WR, Missouri
Round 5 Pick 12: Webster, Ken, CB, Mississippi
Round 6 Pick 12: Alfieri, Joey, OLB, Stanford
Round 6 Pick 21: Smith, Cameron, ILB, Southern California
Round 7 Pick 12: Richard, Milan, TE, Clemson

My Last and Final Draft BPA and Need - We are set at QB for the next 10 years:

12
T.J. Hockenson, TE
Iowa
30
Daniel Jones, QB Duke
44
Deionte Thompson, S Alabama
75
Connor McGovern, IOL
Penn State
114
Chuma Edoga, OT USC
118
Joe Giles-Harris, LB Duke
150
Stanley Morgan Jr., WR
Nebraska
185
Elijah Holyfield, RB Georgia
194
Devine Ozigbo, RB Nebraska
226
James Williams, RB
Washington State

KRK;415874Beast, I like your Dalton Risner pick, but just for giggles, and you know I like the big uglies...
IF you were to take some OT, OG/C in the 114, 118 slots, who would you take?

Off the top of my head, I don't know, and it would depend on who falls... though I did have one mock where I looked at some of the Oklahoma OL in that range and found them interesting, especially since they where heavy into zone blocking and were pretty good at it, and are new scheme is expected to be very heavy into it as well.

Though, on a down side, it's been argued that the Big 12 isn't exactly where you go to find the top defensive line talent and they might not of been facing even the best that college football has to offer of DL talent to face off against, which I believe Risner too.

Majority of the Packers OL over recent years have been Big 10, Pac 12 or small school

KRK;415893My Last and Final Draft BPA and Need - We are set at QB for the next 10 years:

12
T.J. Hockenson, TE
Iowa
30
Daniel Jones, QB Duke
44
Deionte Thompson, S Alabama
75
Connor McGovern, IOL
Penn State
114
Chuma Edoga, OT USC
118
Joe Giles-Harris, LB Duke
150
Stanley Morgan Jr., WR
Nebraska
185
Elijah Holyfield, RB Georgia
194
Devine Ozigbo, RB Nebraska
226
James Williams, RB
Washington State

BUT, BUT [confused]
you waited until pick #75 to draft OL [tongue] [laugh]

I remember Chuma Edoga was another one I was looking at and had some interested in.

3 RBs to close? ... though I like your first two late power RBs (don't know the 3rd guy), but Holyfield is interesting other than he has no speed... but great power and quickness, if he had average speed he would be a lot better... if he had good speed he could be great (but he doesn't), but hey, if you're just looking for 1st downs and not touchdowns, he might still be great within context.

Beast Enumerated

[huh] [huh] you waited until pick #75 to draft OL [laugh]

[laugh]
I am too dumb to know (and lazy not to learn) how to trade down and gotten another second round or early 3rd pick, otherwise, I would have pick one higher.
I actually like the Penn State guy alot....I think he starts.

I looked at some of the Oklahoma OL in that range and found them interesting, especially since they where heavy into zone blocking and were pretty good at it, and are new scheme is expected to be very heavy into it as well.

Great point....part of the problem in picking guys is understanding the system they came form to project fit, and these guys would seem to fit.
I just am not enamored with the whole Big 12 thing.
If I pulled game film and could see whether or not they did well against quality outside the Big 12, I might be more interested.

3 RBs to close? ..

Yeah, I kind of got bored with it.
I figured if I had a 33% hit rate, we would have our 3rd guy.
Also, yes, I am more interested in an guy who will consistently move the chains, especially on short yardage, and pass protect, versus the flash (realistically, that is the most you can hope for in a 7th round guy.)

With the numerous websites and mock drafts predicting the Packers will draft TJ Hockenson TE from Iowa, it is now approaching 95% that certainty that they will not.

KRK;415912With the numerous websites and mock drafts predicting the Packers will draft TJ Hockenson TE from Iowa, it is now approaching 95% that certainty that they will not.

Depends on whose available (including if Hockinson is still available), I think it could come down to Gute's opinion on position value vs complete player value.

Like it was widely believed that OG Quenton Nelson was the best player (or top three at worse) in last year draft, though no one thought he actually going to go in the top three because he's position is considered less valuable.

Like that so is TE (though not as much as OG), but Hockenson is also pretty much a complete player other than he only has average speed.


But teams might want the complete player, or they might want a more valuable and harder to find quality position like CB, edge rusher, etc.

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