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Zero2Cool
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wpr;350502In the past 15 -20 years how many times has GB played down to the level of their competition?
A- WAAAAAAYYYYYY too many times.
I've watched this happen with a lot of teams, the Packers are not the exception.
And still doesn't answer anything for me.
If Kenny does better against weaker competition, doesn't that go against the playing down to your competition theory?
If he were to play down to his competition wouldn't the report be that he does well against better competition, but disappears against weak competition?
Anyhow, found this bouncing around the interGoogle too
John HarrisWhat he brings: Tipping the scales at 314 pounds and running a 5.06 40-yard dash? Yeah, that’s impressive. He put up 29 reps of 225 pounds on the bench and had a 28.5-inch vertical leap. But, it was doing field work where he really stood out. His power and quickness were highly evident at the combine. He remains in constant motion, never takes plays off and is ultra quick up the field. He plays the nose a good majority of the time but with his strength he could move out to star as a 3-4 DE 4- or 5-technique in due time.
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Zero2Cool;350507I've watched this happen with a lot of teams, the Packers are not the exception.
And still doesn't answer anything for me.
If Kenny does better against weaker competition, doesn't that go against the playing down to your competition theory?
Nope because I was not talking about Clark at that moment. You asked the question who doesn't play better against weaker competition and I answered your question. GB does. As far as what other teams do, I don't care. That comparison is like saying our team sucks but we are not as sucky as that other team to the west so it's ok if we sucks too.
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wpr;350502In the past 15 -20 years how many times has GB played down to the level of their competition?
A- WAAAAAAYYYYYY too many times.
GB has one of the best records in the league over the last 15-20 years so I'd say they likely have done better than almost every other team as far as beating the weaker competition.
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"Appeared in all games"
Sounds good to me!
Sounds good to me!
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steveishere;350513GB has one of the best records in the league over the last 15-20 years so I'd say they likely have done better than almost every other team as far as beating the weaker competition.
Where did I say that they have not out performed the league average?
Where did I say that they lost those games that they didn't play up tp their fullest abilities?
The question that was put to me was the question that I answered. Zero2Cool asked who doesn't play better against weaker competition. My answer was GB doesn't always. It doesn't mean they don't win those games.
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wpr;350518Where did I say that they have not out performed the league average?
Where did I say that they lost those games that they didn't play up tp their fullest abilities?
The question that was put to me was the question that I answered. Zero2Cool asked who doesn't play better against weaker competition. My answer was GB doesn't always. It doesn't mean they don't win those games.
Except this team generally dominates weaker competition...
No they don't "always" but that doesn't prove anything.
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nerdmann;350495Alot of guys do better against weaker competition.
[laugh]
I totally missed that the first time.
I read it but it didn't register.
I think what they were trying to say is that the better competition could handle him and thats more like the level he will face in the nfl.
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Laser Gunns;349968First:
My favorite bust was Brian Brohm. God I was so wrong.
Second:
I had an account with a non-retard name before "Rajiroar", I just forgot the info. It was supposed to be temporary I swear!
Third:
Raji killed it in 2010 and 6'd the Bears for the Halas trophy in their house, he is undoubtedly one of Ted's best front 7 picks, sad as that is.
Im never gonna live that damn name down.
Ummm.... look at my name lol
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Bigbyfan;350521Ummm.... look at my name lol
After this brilliant, self-defecating post Bigbyfan immediately suffered a wrist injury, limiting his posting abilities for the next two weeks.
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Wade;349952Well, I obviously have no clue.
I had ten, count 'em, ten DL ahead of Clark still on the board.
And, yes, I would have taken the other UCLA guy before him, too.
(microfracture risk and
all).
But of those on the board at #27... I would have picked any of these before either UCLA guy:
Josh Billings (better now and bigger upside at the same position)
A'Shawn Robinson (ditto)
Vernon Butler DT/De
Kevin Dodd, DE
Jason Spriggs, OT
Jarran Reed, DT
Chris Jones, DT/DE
Su'a Cravens LB
Noah Spence DL
Mackensie Alexander DB
Cody Whitehair OG/RT
Hassan Ridgeway DT
Austin Johnson DT
Well, it's better than the Nick Perry pick was.
Did you ever ask yourself the question why 9 of 10 DL you felt were better are still on the board and only Butler is gone from the overall list you gave? The Packers aren't the only one's that passed on these guys.
They all did. No denying these are all good players and if they get picked by the right team with a scheme that fits their style they will be fine. That doesn't mean they would have had the same success with the Packers. Obviously Clark was that guy for the Pack at 27.
Like always, time will tell, so we wait and see.
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